What Stevie Nicks Hopes Taylor Swift Learned from Her Songwriting

“I don’t ever lie in my songs — if you broke up with me, I don’t put I broke up with you. I tell the truth, always,”

Taylor Swift, Stevie Nicks


Stevie Nicks believes Taylor Swift has learned a great deal from her own songwriting.

In an interview with TODAY.com about her new Barbie, the Fleetwood Mac bandleader opened up about what she believes Swift has gained from her own music.

“I never don’t tell the truth. And I think that’s something that if Taylor Swift, who is my friend, if Taylor got anything from me, that’s what she got,” Nicks told the outlet. “I don’t ever lie in my songs — if you broke up with me, I don’t put I broke up with you. I tell the truth, always.”

She added that she believes that’s “a really good place to start as a writer.”

Stevie Nicks attends the 2019 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony

“I think that’s maybe why my songs connect with people — is because I’m telling them their own story. Everything that happens to me, basically happens to everybody else, in just different ways, different forms, but nevertheless, it’s the same premise,” the “Silver Springs” performer explains.

“You know, you fall in love. Somebody breaks up with you. Your heart is broken. You break up with them, their heart is broken. You feel bad because you broke up with them and their heart is broken and vice versa. And that’s really the Shakespearean tragedy of most love songs. And then of course your mom says, ‘You’ll get through it, you always do.’ And you do,” she says.

Elsewhere in the interview, Nicks revealed that she has a “secret poetry book” of poems that never became songs which she plans to “someday release.”

Stevie Nicks performs live in concert at Madison Square Garden on December 1, 2016 in New York Cit

Stevie Nicks performs in New York City in December 2016.DEBRA L ROTHENBERG/GETTY“If they work themselves into being a song, then I’m really happy,” she told the outlet of the poems. “If they don’t, then they’re going to go in that secret poetry book that I will someday release.”“I have all of the songs before they were songs, so they’re slightly different,” she continues.Nicks also spoke exclusively with PEOPLE about becoming a Barbie

“She is really her own little feminist person at not even a foot tall,” she says. “She’s strong and she’s fierce and she’s solid.”

Nicks said that the tambourine-carrying doll is a reflection of herself that holds all of the experiences she’s “either forgotten or just put away.”

“I see everything in her,” she told PEOPLE. “When I look at her, it’s like she’s my whole life from beginning to now. When I look at her, all the memories are all there.”

“She’s a dream catcher,” Nicks adds. “She catches all the memories and dreams, holds them in her hands and shows them to you.”

Stevie Nicks Receives Her Own Barbie: 'She's My Whole Life From Beginning to Now

Stevie Nicks Barbie.BARBIE
The doll’s all-black get-up is a replica of Fleetwood Mac’s masterwork, Rumours.Nicks sent Mattel the original outfit — a dreamy velvet and silk chiffon dress with angel sleeves and a shredded hemline — straight from her “vault.” And, rather than the Rumours ballet shoes, she sent along a pair of boots made by famed shoemaker Pasquale di Fabrizio.

“I said, ‘If you can copy those boots, Mattel, and copy this outfit, we are home free,’” the singer recalls.

Nicks is currently in the midst of her Stevie Nicks: Live in Concert tour.

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