Ed Sheeran: “Taylor Swift is a middle-aged woman trapped in a 24-year-old’s body”

Andrews may have a bigger role in Swift’s relationship with Travis Kelce than she knows.

Erin Andrews may have powers the likes of which we’ve never seen before. The sports journalist has been rooting for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce for months, posting a video on Instagram in August urging “my imaginary best friend Taylor Swift” to “go on a date with our real friend” Kelce. Now, not only has that reportedly happened, but Swift did so while wearing a jacket that Andrews designed.

Ed Sheeran onstage on June 17, 2014 in Burbank, Calif. (Kevin Winter / Getty Images)

Ed Sheeran onstage on June 17, 2014 in Burbank, Calif.
Kevin Winter / Getty Images

hen Ed Sheeran talked to TIME for this week’s issue, the full conversation ranged from his go-to karaoke song (“Pony” by Ginuwine) and what will happen to his puppet alter ego for his “Sing” video (it will be used again, and then he’ll eventually keep it at home in a display box), to dealing with a break up (writing a song beats crying at home) and worrying that his album will leak (if it happened to Kanye, it could happen to anyone).

And, of course, the infamous Drake-lyric needlepoint.

The “started from the bottom” stitch sampler was created by none other than Taylor Swift, and was shown to the public in the Sheeran-centric MTV doc 9 Days and Nights of Ed Sheeran, which premiered June 10. It caused some Internet swooning among fans, but Sheeran tells TIME, there weren’t any other crafts exchanged:

Did you make Taylor Swift anything in return for the Drake needlepoint?

No, but I’m not a very crafty sort of person. She’s very crafty.

Obviously.

I know she’s 24 but she’s a sort of middle-aged woman trapped in a 24-year-old’s body. She hangs out with her cat and sews things.

How old are you, at heart?

My soul age differs from day to day. It can be 8 or 80.

Can you tell when you wake up which it will be?

It just depends on what I’m doing. If I’m working it’s usually pretty spot-on for work, but if I’m with my friends and the clock’s off I’ll go back to being young.

Sheeran’s new album, x,drops June 23.

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